9 comments

  • Supermancho 11 minutes ago
    The documentary does not, in fact, help explain the conspiracy zeitgeist. Human nature has been reason enough through modern history.

    This MSN "article" seems oddly out of place on HN.

  • davidw 3 hours ago
    There's a Bigfoot trap in Oregon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigfoot_trap

    I wonder if it gets a mention? It does get a mention in the recent Bruce Campbell movie https://www.ernieandemma.com/ - which looks to be even more poignant with his recent cancer diagnosis :-(

    • darepublic 1 hour ago
      Obviously Bigfoot is too smart to fall for those traps
      • jstanley 1 hour ago
        > The trap's door has been bolted open since 1980 for visitor safety.

        "visitor safety" indeed!

  • zyxzevn 1 hour ago
    Physics is needed to fully understand the demolition of 3 towers..
  • axiolite 1 hour ago
    What does bigfoot have to do with conspiracy? Doesn't bigfoot qualify as folklore/urban legend/pseudoscience/hoax/mythology? Is there widespread belief the government is actively covering up its existence for some reason?

    Nothing in the linked story explained it. Did someone make a whole documentary and couldn't get the most basic info right? Or did the reporter mangle the article write-up?

    • tokai 47 minutes ago
      Cryptozoology is pretty big in the conspiracy mediascape.
    • smohare 42 minutes ago
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  • zdw 31 minutes ago
    Given that a large portion of the population has a HD or higher quality camera in their pocket most of the time these days, most cryptid style conspiracies seem pretty well debunked at this point.
  • mikert89 45 minutes ago
    I used to look down on conspiracy theories, now I think many are actually true, or are mixed with truth. Its really unlikely that a theory circulates widely but has no basis in reality
    • estearum 34 minutes ago
      “Reality” applies pretty much zero selection pressure on ideas that are by definition non-actionable.

      That’s the real bread and butter of conspiracy theorizing: claims that don’t matter to anyone’s real lives whether they’re actually true or not.

      Therefore they propagate primarily for entertainment value and face none of the friction that you’re imagining being generated by “doesn’t actually make useful predictions about the world.”

    • mkoubaa 43 minutes ago
      They're all on a spectrum between flat earth and Epstein didn't off himself, with some clustering at either end
      • BatFastard 35 minutes ago
        Wasn't Epstein a conspiracy theory once? Epstein cover up has made me believe that cover ups DO happen, and if this one was covered up, what else has been cover up?
        • mkoubaa 28 minutes ago
          It still is, and it is plainly a true conspiracy. Hence its placement at the top end of the spectrum.

          What else has been covered up? Oh boy...

      • andrewflnr 33 minutes ago
        I don't understand the Epstein thing. In particular, I don't know why everyone doesn't agree "Epstein had help offing himself". That's the most natural inference from the evidence I'm aware of, and also satisfies the conspiracist urge for drama. Everyone should be happy with this, but I've hardly ever heard anyone else put it forward. What am I missing?
    • jackmottatx 13 minutes ago
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  • emp17344 3 hours ago
    Supposedly exposes the Patterson-Gimlin film as a hoax, which is a big deal in the Bigfoot community.
    • cogman10 3 hours ago
      IMO, that was done years ago.

      If you look up that film stabilized [1], it becomes really apparent that it's just a guy in a ape costume. The shaky camera is the only thing that makes it harder to determine what's going on.

      [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPlRr_OfxZI

      • MyHonestOpinon 3 hours ago
        It makes me a little bit sad, I knew it was very unlikely, but I still had hopes just because it would be so cool to find that big foot is real.
      • adzm 2 hours ago
        Read the comments on that video to see how many conclude the opposite!
        • Braxton1980 50 minutes ago
          Is the number of people high enough to make them right?

          For example if one doctor says I have cancer but 100 electricians say I don't I'm cancer free

    • garciasn 2 hours ago
      Is it? Because plenty of other hoax-based bullshit, like Flat Earth Conspiracy Theorists and those who believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old continue on in their bubbles regardless of how much evidence is provided to the contrary.
      • vscode-rest 1 hour ago
        There’s no possible evidence against so called “last Thursdayism”, so you are certainly misrepresenting the state of affairs.
        • default-kramer 7 minutes ago
          What's strange is that many people who believe in a Mature Creation (as I've heard it; "Last Thursdayism" is new to me) will readily accept it as the explanation for ancient starlight but then deny evolution and claim that the fossil record is actually evidence of the biblical flood. Which is an unnecessarily weak position to take when you have already accepted a perfectly unfalsifiable cop-out! The truth is that most of them don't want to think too hard about it.
        • jfengel 1 hour ago
          There's nothing wrong with Last Thursdayism. It's unfalsifiable. You're welcome to hold it.

          Most people find that it's more complicated to work with, since it requires a vastly more complicated set of initial conditions. But if you find that it works for you it isn't actually wrong.

      • scoot 1 hour ago
        I've always assumed that committed conspiracy theorists are just trolls rolling with it (because nobody could be so stupid as to actually believe in the conspiracy's premise). So no amount of evidence is going to "convince" them, because they already know the truth, and don't care.

        But then perhaps over time, they somehow attracted people who genuinely are that stupid, and uncritically believe? That demographic is obviously going to be too stupid to critically assess any new evidence either.

  • Detrytus 38 minutes ago
    Conspiracy theories arise from the natural tendency of human brain to look for patterns even where there are none.

    That being said, nowadays it seems that a difference between conspiracy theory and confirmed fact is 12-24 months

  • aaron695 1 hour ago
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