Chess in SQL

(dbpro.app)

106 points | by upmostly 3 days ago

13 comments

  • upmostly 3 days ago
    Author here.

    I had the idea of building a working Chess game using purely SQL.

    The chess framing is a bit of a trojan horse, honestly. The actual point is that SQL can represent any stateful 2D grid. Calendars, heatmaps, seating plans, game of life. The schema is always the same: two coordinate columns and a value. The pivot query doesn't change.

    A few people have asked why not just use a 64-char string or an array type. You could! But you lose all the relational goodness: joins, aggregations, filtering by piece type. SELECT COUNT(*) FROM board WHERE piece = '♙' just works.

    • jollygoodshow 5 hours ago
      Great showcase. Cool to see how any 2d state can be presented with enough work.

      Just FYI your statement for the checkmate state in the opera game appears to be incorrect

      • upmostly 5 hours ago
        Thank you, and thanks for highlighting that. I'll take a look now.
    • andoando 6 hours ago
      Technically you can model anything in SQL including execution of any Turing complete language
      • eru 4 hours ago
        Yes, but OP wants to preserve the relational goodness.
    • eastbound 7 hours ago
      SQL can make 2D data, but it extremely bad at it. It’s a good opportunity to wonder whether this part can be improved.

      “Pivot tables”: I often have a list of dates, then categories that I want to become columns. SQL can’t do that so there is a technique of spreading values to each column then doing a MAX of each value per date. It is clumsy and verbose but works perfectly… as long as categories are known in advance and fixed. There should be an SQL instruction to pivot those rows into columns.

      Example: SELECT date, category, metric; -- I want to show 1 row per date only, with each category as a column.

      ``` SELECT date,

      MAX( CASE category WHEN ‘page_hits’ THEN metric END ) as “Page Hits”,

      MAX( CASE category WHEN ‘user_count’ THEN metric END ) as “User Count”

      GROUP BY date;

      ^ Without MAX and GROUP BY: 2026-03-30 Value1 NULL 2026-03-30 NULL Value2 2026-03-31 Value1 NULL (etc) The MAX just merges all rows of the same date. ```

      SQL should just have an instruction like: SELECT date, PIVOT(category, metric); to display as many columns as categories.

      This thought should be extended for more than 2 dimensions.

  • antonautz 3 hours ago
    Nice post! It looks like the colors of the pieces are swapped though. Perhaps you could replace the dots with something else to indicate the colors of the individual squares too.
  • eelinki 7 hours ago
    You could take this even further and add triggers to see if your move is legal or not. Or delete row with a conflict when you capture a piece.
  • herodoturtle 1 hour ago
    This is such a cool way to build brand awareness - kudos to the author.

    I'd never heard of dbpro.app until now - and this article is just so awesome.

    Nice job!

  • jimgoneill 7 hours ago
    And they didn’t call it ChessQL?
  • danielszlaski 5 hours ago
    Nice. The trojan horse framing works well, once you see that any 2D state is just coordinates + a value, it’s hard to unsee it. Did you consider using this to enforce move legality via CHECK constraints or triggers, or did that get too hairy?
  • The_Blade 29 minutes ago
    very cool, you got the classic games as well :)

    i once published a "translation" of the Opera Game (chess annotation as a literary device) after reading too much Lautremont so it is disgusting

  • devlx 2 hours ago
    Very cool concept
  • grimm8080 7 hours ago
    Amazing, how do I play it?
  • landsman 7 hours ago
    Tool looks nice, but I would prefer such a tool written in a better (native?) language than JavaScript. Security is also important to me, so I only use open-source tools. I’m going to stick with DBeaver and DataGrip.
  • OfirMarom 5 hours ago
    Of all the use cases for SQL chess would not have been on that list haha. Amazing.
  • FergusArgyll 7 hours ago
    Very cool! I think the dragon is missing a white rook - ascii chess pieces are heard to see...
  • catlifeonmars 5 hours ago
    > No JavaScript. No frameworks. Just SQL.

    > Let's build it.

    Cool concept; but every blog post sounds exactly the same nowadays. I mean it’s like they are all written by the exact same person /s

    • mahogany 19 minutes ago
      The web was already not doing so well, but now I fear LLMs will be the final blow for me. This sort of thing is just unreadable. I don't see how people put up with it. Well, maybe not "people". This thread is full of new accounts saying "cool!". Unfortunately I think HN is on its way out.
    • streetfighter64 1 hour ago
      Yeah, I wish this would have just been a short human-written post of a few paragraphs. The emdashes, bulletpoints and unnecessary dramatic flourishes really detract from it.

      > Not "store chess moves in a database." Not "track game state in a table." Actually render a chess board. With pieces. That you can move around. In your browser. Using nothing but SELECT, UPDATE, and a bit of creative thinking.

      Please, just write like a person.