Mechanical Watch (2022)

(ciechanow.ski)

394 points | by razin 4 hours ago

36 comments

  • fellerts 20 minutes ago
    This article inspired me to build an exploded view of a mechanical watch movement in real-life (2025): https://fellerts.no/projects/epoch.html
  • turzmo 2 hours ago
    The author seems too humble to put a giant Patreon link in a popup (it's at the very bottom), but in case anyone wants to know how to support: https://www.patreon.com/ciechanowski/membership?vanity=ciech...
  • awongh 2 hours ago
    As a teacher I understand how difficult it is to explain complex topics in a simple step by step way.

    The site has some really impressive technical aspects, but the educational angle is the most rare and special! The simplicity of the language and explanations disguise how difficult this is to do.

    This is the original use of the internet- giving away free knowledge to people, perfectly suited for the medium of a website.

    • aquova 1 hour ago
      While I do agree, if the author is reading the comments one piece of feedback I have is the overuse of the phrase "In this article I will...". It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine, and they use a version of the phrase three times in the first four paragraphs.
  • THansenite 13 minutes ago
    I've been fascinated by mechanical watches for years. It can become a deep rabbit hole (like most hobbies). I frequently have watch restoration videos playing in the background as I'm doing things and love the process of taking apart, cleaning, and reassembling these watch movements. Wristwatch Revival is probably my favorite. I has encouraged me to tear apart a few watches of my own to give them a good service. As complex as they look, most follow a very similar process to rebuild.
  • technothrasher 3 hours ago
    I find there is something indescribably fascinating with mechanical timepieces. I'm more of a clock guy than a watch guy, though I've had plenty of watches apart, and the two disciplines merge in many places. I've learned so many new mechanical skills in my now six year journey to be able to repair these things, and to learn to repair them is to learn to make them, as you need to know how to fabricate every single piece in order to be able to repair any movement, thus why clock and watch repairers are called clockmakers and watchmakers.
    • serious_angel 3 hours ago
      • technothrasher 3 hours ago
        Related I guess, but these celebrity "bling" watches are entirely the least interesting part of horology.
        • MSFT_Edging 2 hours ago
          I'm in a similar boat and I find it really hard to talk watches with folks who are experienced in the way of the Rolex AD.

          I really enjoy cheaper vintage watches that call back to when everyone had one of them on their wrist.

          Something about a semi-autonomous machine ticking away on your wrist, whether you're looking at it or not, using no electricity, is just intrinsically satisfying to me.

          I got into watch servicing pre-covid, but never got into actual fabrication of parts. I mention pre-covid because it really got popular when everyone was stuck inside and there was a sudden loss of cheap ebay parts watches to pick from.

          • piltdownman 23 minutes ago
            Rolex ADs are just a para-social gatekeeper for Veblen goods, but there's a huge resurgence in the entry level Swiss Automatic space with some fantastic value propositions in the likes of the enormously popular Tissot PRX 80 line (hello Rolex Land-dweller), or the more recent output from smaller marques like Christoper Ward who are producing COSC certified swiss-made watches for about 4x markup whilst Omega and the rest are jacking up prices quarter on quarter.
        • WillAdams 2 hours ago
          Yeah, it's always interesting when I run into watch guys --- my father's 27-jewel Seiko is too large for my wrist, and the date wheel is broken (and I can't find anyone willing to fix it w/o a donor watch), so I wear quite modest watches such as a Timex Indiglo, or a Seiko Solar --- folks are understanding and sympathetic and almost always have stories about repairs, or watches which they are hoping to have the chance to buy.
          • mtlmtlmtlmtl 1 hour ago
            I've never owned a mechanical watch(did just recently buy an Orient solar watch after I lost my fitbit while traveling and after a couple weeks, realised the only feature I actually missed was having the time on my wrist), but I like watching the channel Wristwatch Revival on youtube. That guy will often repair old watches that most watchmakers won't touch, sent in by viewers, and make content out of it. And he especially loves taking on watches thathave sentimental value for the owner.

            He also recently started a watch repair shop specifically catering to cases most watchmakers won't accept, might be worth checking out.

            https://www.youtube.com/c/WristwatchRevival/

            https://restoration.sutcliffehansen.com/

            • WillAdams 49 minutes ago
              Tempting, but "Services start at $1,750" --- I could buy multiple replacements for that, or make a downpayment on the Seiko Grandmaster or GPS which I want...

              That said, I'll keep it in mind and maybe if I come across a windfall will apply thusly....

          • technothrasher 2 hours ago
            Wear whatever makes you happy without apology. Rolex, Timex, Apple Watch. Whatever. I find a large inverse relation between people who care about the cost of the watch you wear and people who are actually interested in the mechanical function of a watch.
            • WillAdams 48 minutes ago
              Agreed. That's been my experience, and is part of why I haven't been able to bring myself to buy something more expensive.
  • pratikdeoghare 18 minutes ago
    When studying distributed systems you have to convince yourself that clocks cannot be relied on. It is hard to do so because all the clocks around me are always working just fine.

    When this article was posted here earlier I got an idea that maybe wearing a mechanical watch for a while might help.

    I bought a cheap mechanical watch. It needs manual winding daily. If you take it off your wrist it gets out of sync with the other clocks or just stops.

    Few weeks with that clock convinced me.

  • gilleain 3 hours ago
    I recently bought the book 'Watch Repair for Beginners' for reference (a project I slightly unwisely agreed to do).

    It has some great diagrams, but obviously nothing on these interactive animations (er, naturally, since it is a book).

    However the author (Harold C. Kelley) has descriptions for the diagrams similar to a maths proof - like "Warning lever W is raised in position to engage the pin P ... The unlocking lever U lifts the drop lever D ..." - not easy to follow, but maybe if you have the mechanism in front of you!

  • ahknight 1 hour ago
    I love that there's not only the internals of a standard three-hand, but the automatic mechanism as well. If you're going pure mechanical, an automatic is the best way. As long as you actually move during the day the watch generally stays wound up (though a twist when you put it on is a good measure). There's a ton of great watches out there powered only by walking around, and it's fascinating to look at what they can do with that.

    The mechanics of a six-hand are similar, using the mechanism that is described here for the date indicator.

    Another fun device, though more from an EE POV, are the solar+radio/GPS versions of the same. Automatics can hold power for a few days and need walking around to wind. Solar needs light (any light, though sunlight is always best) and hold power for over a month. Many higher-end models can self-set over radio time or GPS signals as well.

    When the world goes tits-up someday, both classes of watches will suddenly become essential, and are already essential for people who spend a good amount of time "unreachable" for work or pleasure.

    • maratc 43 minutes ago
      Casio Oceanus S100 is made of titanium, adjusts itself over the radio[0], understands 29th of February, sets itself on/off DST, never needs tinkering or battery change, and sells for a whooping $350. It's the watch you can set all your other watches to.

      [0] Don't have radio coverage where you live? "There's an app for that" -- or several -- that simulate radio control signals.

  • alxgsv 3 hours ago
    • wateralien 3 hours ago
      Are we allowed to see it again?
      • alxgsv 2 hours ago
        Yes, why not. When I posted my comment, year wasn't in the title. I was very excited to see this, sent to my friend and he said to me that it's an old one. So I posted my comment to make people aware of that.
      • geerlingguy 3 hours ago
        Yes, I remember the GPS post, but somehow missed this one the first go-round. I love how HN can resurface an old post deserving of a few re-posts.
    • StrLght 2 hours ago
      I got really excited thinking it was a new post for a second :(
  • haritha-j 1 hour ago
    I think one of my favourite things about an automatic is that its design calls for it to be worn and not collected. If you collect them, then you'd either be wnding or shaking them when you actually want to wear them, so they aren't automatic. It forces you to wear, and therefore own, just the one, which is how it should be. I have a seiko 5 which i always wear except in the shower.
    • piltdownman 28 minutes ago
      Anyone with a few auto mechanicals will tend to be a 'luxury' watch collector and almost certainly have an auto-winder watchbox or similar solution. It gets way too finnicky to constantly reset crown based Chronos, nevermind something with wheel based control like an AirKing.

      Those who collect manual-winders tend towards trench watches, marriage watches converted from pocket or 1950-69 era vintage Omegas and the like - as the Timex/Hamilton/Seagull re-issues hold little cachet to a collector. The glaring recent exception being the appalling SwatchxAP collab with the hand-wound version the SISTEM51 movement, bringing the worst aspects of both manual wind movements and the unservicable and ultimately disposable nature of contemporary swatch movements.

    • Esophagus4 11 minutes ago
      Any reason for not wearing yours in the shower? I wear mine pretty much all the time except sleep.
  • NoSalt 1 hour ago
    I have LOVED the beauty of mechanical watches my entire life. About 15 years ago, I started a little savings account to purchase an Omega Speedmaster. I have long since past the amount needed to purchase that beautiful timepiece, but I now have a wife, child, and house. The money is still there, but I cannot seem to pull the trigger. My wife says she is entirely Ok with me doing this as we are comfortable money-wise, but the "dad" in me keeps saying "You might need that money for a rainy day."
    • dnemmers 1 hour ago
      It might be worth purchasing one second hand, then most of the depreciation is already gone. If you need the money, you're likely to recoup most of it by re-selling.
      • NoSalt 6 minutes ago
        I have thought of this, but I would forever live in fear that I had been ripped off by a fake.
      • dionian 1 hour ago
        Or buy a nice Swiss automatic in the 1-2000 range.
        • NoSalt 6 minutes ago
          Do you have any good recommendations for me?
        • maratc 49 minutes ago
          Or a $300 Seagull 1963 (the Chinese bought the rights, the design, and the machines.)
          • GordonS 27 minutes ago
            Those look really nice (love the moon phase indicator that some of them have too!), but the "red star" motif on the watch face does put me off.
  • throw0101c 2 hours ago
    As observed from a comment [1] in a previous discussion: in the first animation the time and date shown are actually correct (per your web browser) when it initially renders, though it does not increment as the seconds hand reaches 12.

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31261533#unv_31268444

  • scosman 1 hour ago
    My 8yo son plays with this any chance he gets. We've started building watches together as a result (simple "drop in movement mods", but aspirations of building our own movement). The author really made something special.
  • kqr 3 hours ago
    I also recommend this demonstration from 1949, in that excellent style they used back then with large scale physical models and stop-motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMW-QWPZEm0
  • timdiggerm 3 hours ago
    It's been more than a year since his last post. Anyone know what's up?
    • assimpleaspossi 2 hours ago
      Maybe the article is done. He did make a few blog posts since then including seven months ago.
  • grugdev42 29 minutes ago
    What a brilliant resource.

    I think this should be used in schools.

    Really easy to understand and instantly captivating.

    Please do more topics!!! :)

  • vmilner 42 minutes ago
    Does anyone have recommendations for cheapish mechanical watches that don't cost a fortune to service? (UK based) Secondhand or new.
    • maratc 5 minutes ago
      Seiko 5 and Seiko 5 GMTs are great, but Orient is also a worthy contender.
    • artsandsci 31 minutes ago
      If you get any cheapish mechanical watch with a widely available movement (EG an NH35 or NH36), it makes more sense not to service it, and just replace it when (if) it wears out. That's what I do with my Seikos.
    • buzzy_hacker 34 minutes ago
      Seiko 5 is the go-to recommendation for inexpensive mechanical watches
  • grvdrm 2 hours ago
    What an outrageously cool and informative website. Love it.

    I'm back to mostly wearing analog watches. Had an Apple Watch on my wrist for quite a long time, but something about analog appeals once more. No smartwatch beats an analog in the style department, and I see analog everywhere around me ('burbs of NYC)

  • sammyo 2 hours ago
    My wife finds yard sale watches and has me change the battery, but then I open one, a tiny thing and it's not battery powered but there are layers of tiny tiny gears. Mind boggling. (pro tip, a "bench knife" has a tiny blade that's optimized for plying open watch cases)
  • kordlessagain 1 hour ago
    https://www.youtube.com/wristwatchrevival if anyone loves stuff like this. He's great!
  • Kaibeezy 1 hour ago
    See also: “Clockmaking”, a 24-part series wherein a brass clock is fabricated by hand - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZioPDnFPNsETq9h35dgQq80R...
  • zkmon 1 hour ago
    How many animations does that page have? And how did they make them?
    • throwaway152321 1 hour ago
      High level, it's all done on iPad with Shapr3D. For the details subscribe to his Patreon. Completely worth it.
  • josh-sematic 2 hours ago
    This piece made me kind of fall in love with mechanical watches. The Orient Bambino I’m currently rocking on my wrist probably wouldn’t be there without it!
  • WillAdams 3 hours ago
    Relevant YouTube channel for a deep dive:

    https://www.youtube.com/@chronovaengineering

  • NiloCK 2 hours ago
    On-demand ciechanow.ski caliber articles are a pretty good AGI indicator. All the work on that site is wonderful.
  • serious_angel 3 hours ago
    Ineffably magnificent... no words may express how simply ingenious and incredible both the website work and such the marvel the work is attributed to...

    What if schools would provide children such marvel? Yes, that requires a sufficient time to achieve, but dear... it's just... a miracle...

    Related: https://ciechanow.ski/archives (Bartosz Ciechanowski...)

  • throwpoaster 1 hour ago
    This (re-)triggered a huge (dormant?) mechanical watch special interest for me when it was first posted.

    Neurospiceys tread carefully.

    <3

  • dionian 1 hour ago
    " it may be hard to believe that merely a few decades ago the most convenient way to keep track of time was a mechanical watch." I guess quartz is more convenient if you often take the watch off for more than a day. But my swiss automatics dont need a regular battery change, just a servicing every decade (or longer). I guess there are solar powered quartz watches though.
  • rvz 3 hours ago
    (2022)
  • rohitsriram 19 minutes ago
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  • dofm 5 minutes ago
    Paging Elias Thorne! /s

    In all seriousness I should read the cameras and lenses one again; it'll be useful to me now

  • llcoolv 2 hours ago
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  • ahmdnassir1 2 hours ago
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    • minton 1 hour ago
      What do people get out of this kind of spam? How does having AI regurgitate another post (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48553975) benefit them?
      • dbalatero 1 hour ago
        I think typically it's karma farming? To what end I'm not sure but it's probably not great.
      • KomoD 1 hour ago
        The profile links to his website, so it's probably to promote that.
  • selfawareMammal 1 hour ago
    Why is this getting to the top page every year?
    • NoSalt 1 hour ago
      Because watches and watch mechanics are AWESOME!
    • jmye 1 hour ago
      Because new people see it, find it fascinating, and upvote it. As it turns out, in a feed like HN's, it's easy to miss things if you don't happen to see them within a day or so of them being posted.

      I'm not sure why this is a mystery.