elect.horse

(elect.horse)

424 points | by solarist 6 hours ago

23 comments

  • glenstein 1 hour ago
    Fun! One less than intuitive piece is that, as far as the game is concerned, evenly dividing a district 50-50 stops that district from counting toward anyone's majority.

    So if Blue was only present in a single district where its the majority, you could have ten more districts all evenly tied between Purple and Orange, and Blue would still win.

  • tejstead 4 hours ago
    I think this is basically a copy of Gerrymandle?
    • zimpenfish 2 hours ago
      You could add "pretty shameless" before "copy" there. Sheesh.

      What next? words.horse which is just Wordle?

      • timpark 2 hours ago
        words.horse appears to be a blog, but Horsle exists. https://cabletwo.net/horsle/
      • replygirl 2 hours ago
        wordle is just a copy of mastermind
        • gus_massa 44 minutes ago
          I consider it only "inspired by"

          Mastermind has equiprobability of colors and configurations.

          Wordle has etaoin shrdlcu. There is some structure close to interleaved vowels and consonants. Also an arbitrary list of real words.

        • latexr 1 hour ago
          Wordle is inspired by Mastermind, sure, but I don’t think it’s fair to call it a copy. I enjoy Mastermind; I do not enjoy Wordle¹.

          Even the simplest details are different, like e.g. in Wordle you know which letters are in the right or wrong places but in Mastermind you only know some are but not which.

          ¹ And because this is HN, I have to point out that that is just a personal preference, it does not in any way reflect on you, the reader. You are free to enjoy or dislike whatever you want.

        • p-e-w 1 hour ago
          Indeed, humanity proceeds largely through refinement of existing ideas, not through random leaps.

          Some of these refinements are much more important than most new ideas.

          And making a gerrymandering game is a relatively obvious idea that I’m sure hundreds of people have had independently.

        • jdblair 1 hour ago
          if letters were colors?
      • efdee 1 hour ago
        Wordle is just a copy of Lingo.
      • boringg 2 hours ago
        The Zynga of small cute puzzle web-games.
      • metalman 1 hour ago
        not shameless as here is cut and paste from the landing page when all that renders is plain text

        elect.horse is a daily gerrymandering puzzle: the horse is losing the popular vote to the cow, the donkey and the goat, and you draw equal districts on a hex map so it wins the most seats anyway. It needs JavaScript to play.

        I only clicked because I have a horse, with whom I spent a few miniuts out in the paddock before daylight listening to the coyotes whoop it up so close you could smell there not dog , but not bad, odor.

    • Symbiote 3 hours ago
      It looks like it: https://gerrymandle.com/
      • echelon 2 hours ago
        The horse version feels more fun and cozy.
      • elxr 3 hours ago
        This one doesn't load for me
    • tarpitt 2 hours ago
      Gerrymandle doesn't have horses
    • curtisf 3 hours ago
      • tialaramex 2 hours ago
        Yeah, when I saw elect.horse I didn't think "Ooh, a new game I've never imagined before". This is a problem, but you can show the problem as part of a fun game. Like Monopoly the point isn't that this is an awesome game, the point is that it's a real problem, but if you have fun that's great too. If you get somewhat good at the game, you can understand the problem better.
      • MattRix 2 hours ago
        Yes but surely you can see that this is copying much more than just the general idea of a game about gerrymandering.
        • tialaramex 2 hours ago
          I don't see it, but maybe you have examples where there are specific choices which were copied?
          • quuxplusone 39 minutes ago
            The hex grid (rather than, say, square, or random Voronoi regions). The fact that some hexes have 1 voter and some have zero (rather than, say, all hexes having 1 voter, or any having more than 1). The circular colored dot indicating the voter's party (rather than, say, a picture of a horse, or tinting the entire hex). The "Hint", "Reset", and "Submit"/"Call election" buttons below the grid, in that specific order; and (I assume) the nature of the hints. The "health bar" graphic depicting the number of horse voters and donkey voters.
          • j_rosenthal 51 minutes ago
            This is probably a better example of prior implementation with many similar design decisions

            https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1639370584/mapmaker-the...

            https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/252997

          • iamnothere 41 minutes ago
            Also who the hell cares if something is a “copy”, what matters is if it’s better or worse

            Linux is a copy of UNIX. Who cares

    • syshyk 1 hour ago
      Clone software they said, it will be good they said
    • duskdozer 3 hours ago
      Seems like it, though this has a second puzzle with three candidates instead of two
      • manarth 3 hours ago
        Gerrymandle interchanges the number of candidates: sometimes two, sometimes three, sometimes more
        • duskdozer 2 hours ago
          Ah. First time I've seen either.
    • paulnpace 2 hours ago
      With you always working make sure blue wins.
    • bibinou 2 hours ago
      [dead]
    • srameshc 1 hour ago
      the more such site the better it is.
  • chinathrow 4 hours ago
    • merelysounds 3 hours ago
      List of daily "dle" games: https://dles.aukspot.com - warning, it's big.

      Mine is the nonogram daily puzzle at: https://lab174.com/nonodle/

      • tialaramex 2 hours ago
        Doesn't seem to have https://blueprintle.org/ (which won't make any sense if you haven't played Blue Prince, but unlike Blue Prince itself it is free)
        • cableshaft 1 hour ago
          I have played 70 hours of Blue Prince and I still don't know what I'm doing in that game.
          • fwipsy 11 minutes ago
            It's like Wordle but for Blue Prince rooms. You're trying to guess a specific room, the game will tell you what you got right or wrong about the last room.
          • tialaramex 18 minutes ago
            But, seventy hours of play should mean that if you narrow down that the correct answer has exactly two exits, costs nothing and is green, it's not lavatory or bookshop :D
      • boringg 2 hours ago
        Wait what is this site the dles of aukspot? How do you choose - it's overwhelming.

        I didn't realize how vast the underworld of dle games was. Brought to you by AI?

      • MattRix 2 hours ago
        hah didn't think my game would be listed there, but it was! https://fivefold.ca
        • macintux 1 hour ago
          Nice. I assume you've seen the Sudoku puzzles at Logic Masters Germany? Heavily reminiscent.

          One suggestion, and maybe I'm just holding it wrong: when I started the daily puzzle, I had to scroll down to read through the rules, which I assume starts the timer while I'm still learning the symbols. It would be nice to have an interim page with a summary of the symbols so the timer doesn't start immediately.

    • beyti 4 hours ago
      one of my daily fun routines: - wordle - enclose.horse
      • tialaramex 4 hours ago
        I already play Blueprintle (as Wordle is to the dictionary, so Blueprintle is to the Blue Prince room directory) Wordle and Connections but maybe I will pick up one of the horse games when I grow bored of one of them
      • Tepix 3 hours ago
        Recommendation: add the two daily puzzles of Sunflowersgame: https://sunflowersgame.com/
    • QuantumNomad_ 3 hours ago
      Also “related”, but only vaguely:

      https://xkcd.com/936/

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_lVSrPB6w

      :D

      Anyone else got something horse adjacent?

  • Agentlien 4 hours ago
    It's fun but I can barely see the difference between the horse and donkey colors which makes it really hard.
    • antonyh 2 hours ago
      I don't have colour blindness, I have a colour calibrated display, and I find it hard to differentiate between them.

      Also, Firefox blocking Canvas elements does something really funky to the hex tiles making it harder. Allowing access does make the tile background change to pink/yellow-green instead of them all being lilac/lavender/purple animations.

      The colours make it too difficult for me on a good display, and the dancing 'thing' (wheat?) doesn't help.

      • glenstein 1 hour ago
        Seems to be fine on my firefox with ublock enabled. Though the hexes sometimes are confused about which groups I'm modifying, which I'm not sure if that's a firefox thing or not.

        Color also seems fine to me. Horse is bright blue and the other is lavender.

      • llm_nerd 2 hours ago
        It seems that you're indirectly citing my comment, so I have to reply.

        You really have trouble differentiating between 5fd3ff and b58cff? These are dramatically different hues (65 degrees on the colour wheel).

        I mean, maybe the site is A:B testing different hue combinations, or there is a technical fault happening for some users, but if you really have trouble differentiating those two hues, one of your two declarations at the beginning of your comment must be false.

    • pge 3 hours ago
      I am color blind (red-green) and have the same issue. Not a color-blind friendly color scheme...
    • llm_nerd 3 hours ago
      FWIW, they are pretty distinct hues, and are easily discernible. I only mention this because a lot of people go through life not realizing they suffer some form of colour blindness, so it's worth knowing. Another possibility is that you're looking at it on a very poor display.

      EDIT: I've now been "downvoted" multiple times for this harmless observation, and now have a clown declaring me a "bad llm". Is this what HN is reduced to?

      • Agentlien 2 hours ago
        I know I've got deuteranopia. That doesn't help. I still can barely see the difference. What would have helped is picking two colors which weren't so close for people with such a common issue.

        What frustrates me is that this has happened even with color coding in video games where I myself was part of the UI team and flagged the issue a year before release. (Need For Speed, 2015)

        • llm_nerd 2 hours ago
          > I know I've got deuteranopia. That doesn't help.

          Seems like something you should probably declare upfront if you're complaining about the colour choices, right? As is your comment looks weird to the vast majority of people -- and yes, the vast majority of people are not colour blind -- who have no issues with the colours.

          Should every colour-based game, chart, display, and so on have colour blind modes or safer colour selections? Sure.

      • pimlottc 1 hour ago
        You’re being downvoted because you’re discounting other people’s experiences. The hues are easily distinguished /to you/ but not to everyone.
        • llm_nerd 1 hour ago
          I explicitly noted that someone probably has colour blindness if they can't discern the hues. And it turns out that is the situation in this case, it just wasn't stated.

          I didn't discount anything, and that's a simply ridiculous slur. My observation was absolutely correct.

          Yes, a very small minority of people have trouble with certain hue combinations.

      • ThrowawayTestr 2 hours ago
        You are correct. If you can't tell the difference between purple and cyan you probably have color blindness.
      • Muromec 2 hours ago
        bad llm
        • llm_nerd 2 hours ago
          Uh, what? What is the point of your worthless comment?
          • glenstein 1 hour ago
            There used to be a convention on reddit to respond to some comment bots with "bad bot" or "good bot" and the bot would use that feedback to assess if its responses were helpful. I think maybe wikipedia summaries or things like that.

            Then I think it became a kind of put down and/or a way of saying certain inauthentic comments seemed insincere. In this context as reply to you, though, it feels pretty inexplicable.

    • Tepix 3 hours ago
      [flagged]
      • mixtureoftakes 3 hours ago
        got me wondering how many complaints you see online are one shottable by any decent model with 30 seconds of "i have this issue: . provide easiest working solution" prompting
        • throw310822 2 hours ago
          Yesterday I was watching a tv program online on the legitimate website of the broadcaster, but I was really annoyed at the fact that the video stopped whenever I left the tab. So I opened Chrome's devtools, went to the AI tab ad exposed my complaint. In a few seconds it had analysed all the minified sources of the website, found which tracker was responsible of this, and written a script to disable it. Lovely.
    • Razengan 3 hours ago
      That in itself might be a social commentary.. :)
      • Jtarii 3 hours ago
        Sure, if you have an IQ of 80.
        • fancyfredbot 3 hours ago
          For people with IQ over 80, highlighting that people in different tribes are actually alike doesn't count as social commentary?
          • Jtarii 3 hours ago
            The only people who think republicans and democrats are exactly the same have an IQ of 80.

            The "both sides" meme was funny when jon stewart was doing it in 2008. It has run its course.

            • fancyfredbot 3 hours ago
              I took it as a comment about voters than parties.

              It didn't even occur to me that it was saying republicans and democrats are the same. That's just ridiculous ;-)

              Edit: To clarify there's good evidence that people overestimate the degree to which people on the other side of the political divide hold extreme views by about a factor of two. We genuinely are less different than we think. It's not necessary for people to be the same for this to be true.

            • Razengan 1 hour ago
              That's exactly how you look like to the rest of the world boy
            • xienze 3 hours ago
              Surely you agree that "both sides" think the other side is full of evil politicians that want to destroy the country AND their voters are complete morons?

              And surely you can agree that each side has key issues they feel very strongly about (abortion on the left, guns on the right) and again, think the other side's view on said issues are utterly disgusting, right?

              And SURELY you can agree that gerrymandering has occurred at various times in the past, from both sides, can't you? For example, take a look at the map of Illinois congressional districts[0]. Perfectly sensible districts here, yessir!

              The low IQ take is pretending there aren't places where both sides do in fact behave the same way.

              0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27s_congressional_dis...

              • tialaramex 2 hours ago
                What you'd expect to see in a healthy democracy is people who want to fix the bug, and for a while maybe those who most benefit from the bug fight to keep it but eventually there's a broad public sentiment in favour of fixing the bug and so it simply becomes uncontroversial to fix it. Say fifty years. Give it an extra generation if e.g. civil war breaks out interrupting such considerations.

                But Gerry died in the nineteenth century. This practice is almost as old as the United States of America itself. I would say it's as bad as if the US still had slavery, or still had capital punishment, but oh yeah it still has both of those too. Do better.

                • jwilcoxson 2 hours ago
                  We still have slavery?
                  • kortex 1 hour ago
                    > Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

                    Inmates are frequently forced to work for pennies.

                  • tialaramex 1 hour ago
                    Yup. Quoting Wikipedia: "The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude except as a punishment for a crime where the individual has been convicted"

                    Mandatory "Penal labour" isn't chattel slavery but it would still be recognised as slavery in any modern understanding.

  • jawns 2 hours ago
    I am a big fan of both enclose.horse and gerrymandle.com. I play both daily.

    But this rip-off of gerrymandle.com makes me feel less inclined to continue playing enclose.horse.

    And yes, it is a rip-off, not merely a riff on the general puzzle game of this type.

    It's akin to joke stealing among comedians. It makes you lose respect for the joke stealer, even if their original stuff is good.

    • j_rosenthal 54 minutes ago
      Aren't they both ripoffs of the 2019 boardgame Mapmaker?

      (Great Kickstarter, they played games of it on the steps of the supreme Court, and had pledge levels where you could have copies sent to your Congresspeople or the court)

      Mapmaker: The Gerrymandering Game, via @Kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1639370584/mapmaker-the...

      https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/252997

      • akramachamarei 49 minutes ago
        On the steps of SCOTUS, not Congress, curiously....
    • joshuaS98 2 hours ago
      It's the same developer...
      • mckeed 56 minutes ago
        That's what they are saying. That the enclose.horse people ripping off gerrymandle makes them like enclose.horse less.
      • alstonite 2 hours ago
        What’s your source on that? The owners of Enclose.horse don’t list gerrymandle as one of their games: https://clevergoat.com/all-games
        • aizk 1 hour ago
          Shivers (the original developer) sold it to them.
        • efilife 2 hours ago
          He means that enclose.horse and elect.horse are from the same developers.

          (which isn't true btw, enclose.horse was sold by the original developer)

          • joshuaS98 2 hours ago
            I mean to say that it's owned by the same people
    • Labo333 2 hours ago
      To the other commenters: @jawns means a rip-off of gerrymandle.com
    • sporterra 44 minutes ago
      But even gerrymandle is a rip off of a NYT game that never left beta: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/us/politics/congres...

      There's a enough of a branding and storyline difference for me to love elect.horse

    • jwilcoxson 2 hours ago
      It literally says “also by us: enclose.horse”
      • MattRix 2 hours ago
        lol we know it's by the same people as enclose horse, the issue is that it rips off gerrymandle
    • yohannparis 2 hours ago
      It's from the same people!
  • artificialLimbs 5 minutes ago
    Obvious htmx propaganda.
  • anonymous908213 3 hours ago
    enclose.horse was sold off not too long after it was published. The new owners now seem to be doing a shameless cash grab, ripping off gerrymandle.com 1:1, down to some particularly weird UI choices, and the text copy is transparently LLM-generated. It would be one thing if they added some kind of improvement or unique take, but reskinning (with assets you bought) and throwing ads on it is, frankly, just lame.
    • asmosoinio 3 hours ago
      To whom was it sold? Any reference for that?

      I still thought it was some single persons product.

      Update; ah ok sold to two people, not some huge company - https://enclose.horse/about-us:

      ---- Our Story

      Enclose.horse was originally created by Shivers as an interesting optimization problem, the kind of thing you'd find in a Leetcode challenge or an Advent of Code puzzle. But after prototyping it, it turned out to be genuinely fun to play, and it grew into a fully-fledged game.

      Today, enclose.horse is developed and maintained by Ryan and Praveen. We're constantly adding new features, puzzle mechanics, and quality-of-life improvements based on community feedback. If you have ideas, we'd love to hear them!

    • alembic_fumes 3 hours ago
      > ripping off gerrymandle.com

      I'm used to game developers sometimes displaying their political preferences through their art, but I have to say that Gerrymandle's "Win the election for orange." is still quite on the nose!

      • toyg 3 hours ago
        For the record, it's just the current puzzle - the colors vary pretty wildly, see for example the previous one: https://gerrymandle.com/game/2026-10-29
        • anonymous908213 3 hours ago
          There's also a colorblind mode where you can always win the election for blue, if that's more to your political preference! I like that mode just for keeping the colors consistent.
      • manarth 3 hours ago
        "Win the election for <color>" is Gerrymandle's standard text, and the color changes for each daily puzzle.
  • ivanjermakov 2 hours ago
    Competitve side is much weaker than in enclose.horse, this game only measures hints used.
  • metalrain 55 minutes ago
    No idea what is this about. Filled land with hay and still lost.
  • butlike 57 minutes ago
    I honestly don't get today's expert puzzle. When you start, horse is at 8, donkey is at 10, and cow is at 14. I get two districts for horse, which the puzzle then states "horse wins," but wouldn't the final standing then be

    horse: 10, donkey: 10, cow: 14

    So cow still wins? Why did it say horse wins on the "See results" screen?

    • nickabe 42 minutes ago
      Each district you draw is the only thing that counts for voting.

      So, "gerrymandering" the districts to make it so the least popular "party" wins is the objective of the game. What's maybe not clear about the game is that each dot represents one animal and not say another mini district.

    • multisport 49 minutes ago
      the numbers are just the number of hexes for each candidate, what you care about are the number of colored areas / colored squares. If you see 2 or more blue colored squares above the buttons, then the horse wins, which is what you want.
  • swiftcoder 3 hours ago
    That's a really concrete demonstration of gerrymandering. Assign it in schools!
    • parineum 32 minutes ago
      It doesn't represent the risk to gerrymandering at all. There are no error bars in voting patterns based on 4 year old data.

      Part of the reason this next cycle is looking so bad for Republicans is _because_ of the gerrymandering they tried backfiring on them because they cut the lines too close to try and gain more seats.

  • logicallee 29 minutes ago
    This was incredibly fun and rewarding, I spent a really long time on the expert puzzle and eventually solved it. I really like that you can use some kinds of deductive logic, as well as trial and error as well! Very very fun.
  • writtenone 1 hour ago
    because erect.horse does not exist... yet...
  • ghrl 4 hours ago
    Meant to post this, too.

    Another great game from the enclose.horse game, both are very fun and really challenging to play depending on the level.

  • petterroea 2 hours ago
    Big fan of enclose.horse. Happy there is a sequel
  • monster_truck 1 hour ago
    Extremely rude to use such similar colors for this, I can't fuckin tell what I'm doing
  • andrewrn 1 hour ago
    Fun game!
  • joshuaS98 2 hours ago
    day 8 expert took me about 40 seconds
  • hbcdbff 53 minutes ago
    “A tie wins a district for nobody”

    I hate this AI slop text

  • happybox2016 14 minutes ago
    [flagged]
  • teekert 3 hours ago